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Chapter 65:7-9
The Prohibitions Against Interest

7. The following situation is also considered to be interest forbidden by the Torah itself. One person lent money to a colleague on the condition that, afterwards the latter would reciprocate and lend him the same sum for a longer period; alternatively, on the condition that he lend him a larger sum for the same period.

Should one grant a loan on the condition that later the borrower will grant the lender a loan of the same sum for an equal amount of time: Some authorities consider this to be forbidden, while others view it as permitted. It is proper to follow the more stringent position. However, if no condition is made to that effect, but later, the borrower voluntarily offers the lender a loan, the more lenient position may be followed. This applies even if the loan is granted only because the other party had previously extended a loan to his colleague.

8. The lender must take care not to benefit from the borrower without the borrower's realizing it, during the entire time the lender's money is in the borrower's hands.

The above applies even to favors which the borrower would gave done for him even if he had not given him the loan, for it appears that the lender expects the borrower to forego the difficulty because of the money he owes him. Nevertheless, if the borrower is aware of the favor he is doing the lender, it is permitted, provided that he would have performed the favor even if the loan had not been given. However, the favor may not be a matter of public knowledge.

9. If, generally, the borrower had not been accustomed to greeting the lender, he is forbidden to do so (after receiving the loan). Similarly, it is forbidden for the borrower to honor the lender in the synagogue or elsewhere, if he had not ordinarily been accustomed to doing so.

The above and similar situations are placed in the category of ribis d'vorim (interest through speech) and are forbidden. This is implied by the expression (Deuteronomy 23:20) "any form of increase." The Hebrew dovor, translated as "form," is related to dibbur (speech), thus implying that speech may also be forbidden as interest.

The lender is also warned against ribis d'vorim - for example, the lender asks the borrower: "Tell me if so and so from this particular place has arrived." Even through the lender is troubling the borrower only with regard to making a statement, if the latter would ordinarily not have given him this information beforehand, and now the lender takes advantage of his loan and commands the borrower because he is presently subservient to him - this is also interest.

One might ask: [Proverbs 22:7] states: "a borrower is a servant to the lender." However, that statement is relevant only when there is a dispute between them, in which the lender says: "Let us judge the case here." The borrower is obligated to judge the case where the lender desires, because of the injunction implied by this verse. Conversely, the verse also implies that if the borrower desires to take the matter to a higher court in another place , the lender need not follow him. [However, concerning other matters, the lender is forbidden to take advantage of having granted the loan.)

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